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11/10/2009 12:00:00 AM
Let's discuss 'Suicides rise in Elkhart County on tail of recession'.
Coroner John White is presiding over a sad tally in this northern Indiana county, tracking rising numbers of suicides he believes are linked to the lingering recession.
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| I thought that might have been the situation. I kept reading obits on so many odd, strange age groups with no real reason for dying. I wish they could think more of themselves and realize what material things they have are just that, material things and you can always replace material things whether it be a divorce, a change of life situation or job as Elkhart County has. Sometimes people can make you feel bad about yourself also in just day by day living, the nack is to learn that those kinds of people are not going to be important in your life in the future, you just don't befriend them, it's only a presence for a moment. I hate hearing that as this is what I feared most about the unemployed in Elkhart and other areas due to this economy. But on the other hand, housing and other industry also encourages people to spend and buy more than they can afford or have also and there again, another thorn in the side. Life is full of them. But you always have to remember that "you are important", you are loved and put the rest aside, let it go, start from scratch again, you can rebuild, that advice was given to me long ago and I never forgot it. Material things are worthless. I do understand that most of it is day by day needed items such as food and clothing, but you will get by.
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| As the mother of a suicide victim, I think that you need to go farther back than 2009 = Elkhart was in a recession in 2008 and I agree with others, there was NO help - when you have no job, no insurance and no where to turn, since without insurance no one wants to address the medical issues brought on by lack of job and money, people feel that there is no way out but to end their own life. I know that my son was very ill from depression, but living in Texas I could not know that since it was hidden from me and other family members. I do have to believe that he never would have resorted to this last ditch effort to escape what he thought was true nothingness if he could have talked to and gotten the help that he, and all others in this situation, needed we would all still have our loved ones with us. Oaklawn is just one place that turned him away since he had no insurance and no job - and here I always thought they were here to help - if only I had one day to talk to him and move him to my h ome in Texas, maybe our family would still be enjoying his laugh and life.
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| I disagree wit hthe first poster (Karma?)-- there is not more to life at least in a mainstream sense than material things and producing. It's dehumanizing and anti-social. That more suicides don't occur is what's surprising to me, because it's rational within that context, IMO. BTW wasn't there an article a couple of years ago that either noted that among the regular rate of suicides there was a jump in white collar profesionals in Elkhart COunty, or that the overall rate increased and so did white collar suicides. One of the two I can't remember.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The society which over-rewards people who simply happen to be standing in the right place at the right time will waste its effort in a constant jostling match to be lucky, rather than good." --stirling newberry
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I firmly believe that when a person is faced with loseing everything they have spent their lives working for it can be absolutely devestating. The knowledge that you have not only failed yourself but failed your family, knowing that not only will you be without a home but because of you, your family is going to be living on the streets. And people can say from now until doomsday that it wasn't your fault but as the person who takes care of your family....that's just words. And when a person is that destroyed by all that has happened, words mean very little. And then you have the group who says maybe you should talk with someone...... like that is going to put a roof over your childs head, food in their belly, clothes on their back..... talking does not fix what's happening now....jobs do. And how long will it take before the state steals away our children because we have no jobs and we've lost our homes and we are now living on the streets.... how long??? And don't say it wouldn't happen because it did in South Bend. So I understand why suicide is on the rise.... there comes a point where even the strongest person simply can't fight any longer.
Boundaries & beliefs are nothing more than ideas or concepts that we have commited to & accepted as truth. They become the prison walls that we inadvertently construct around ourselves ----
Deepak Chopra
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JamieJensen (11/10/2009)
I disagree wit hthe first poster (Karma?)-- there is not more to life at least in a mainstream sense than material things and producing. It's dehumanizing and anti-social. That more suicides don't occur is what's surprising to me, because it's rational within that context, IMO.I should know better, but here goes. Following your argument that there is not more to life than material things, and producing, should we not be applauding these people who can't produce for removing themselves from the gene pool? Heck, in your context, it is a rational decision on their part to spare the rest of us their lack of team spirit. Or am I totaly missing your premise?
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| Gosh, this article is difficult to read. And Texas Lady, I am so sorry for your loss.
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JamieJensen (11/10/2009)
I disagree wit hthe first poster (Karma?)--
Nope, wasn't me  But I do have to say, everyone copes with adversity in life differently. I think that sometimes people just get to a point, even the most resilient, where it is just to damn hard to pick the pieces up again. The knock downs come faster than the opportunities to stand up and place your feet firmly underneath you. It is a shame that people feel that death is their only way out or that the people they love would be better off without them.
sorry for the ramble 
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The society which over-rewards people who simply happen to be standing in the right place at the right time will waste its effort in a constant jostling match to be lucky, rather than good." --stirling newberry
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| Is the flat line gallows humor, or did I cross a line?
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