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Posted 10/23/2009 2:34:42 AM
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Let's discuss 'Back to work, saddled with debt'.

just like the one he left when he was laid off by Keystone in August 2008. But the world looks different to Hostetler. "Someone asked me if there was a light at the end of the tunnel," he said. "I said 'yeah, there's a candle, and the wind is blowing right at it.'" Like the community and economy as a whole, the 36-year-old Hostetler has a long climb to get back to where he was before the

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Posted 10/23/2009 2:42:58 AM


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Posted 10/23/2009 9:45:46 AM


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This article's stupid.

I dunno anybody who made 35 bucks an hour for assembly before the downturn. I only knew a handful who made about $20 an hour. It was more common for people to have made a lot less I don't care what your county average says and Keystone isn't close to being a personification of any average. Even when times were good a lot of factory workers were not doing so hot as is often painted in these pieces.

I think the underlying point of the article was to shock educated readers nationally to contempt upon reading that people who quit in 9th grade were making $35 an hour in a factory over in podunk Indiana can u believe it ZOMG. When will you writers gets on board with the fact that all working people have been needing a raise and it isn't the factory workers' fault that college educated people have been getting screwed after investing so much in themselves. Not only that but no one so far has honestly portrayed what our local workers do every day for their earnings. We aren't automated here like Detroit. Elkhart County is not the Detroit stereotype your industry has propagated for assumption when reading an article about factory workers.

Oh well. At least this time the person interviewed wasn't portrayed as an obese pepsi guzzling, armpit scratching flatulating local tavern hot shot whose MIL keeps a stinky cat box. Anything over that's an improvement, still got a ways to go. Watch our local Vandenack, maybe you can learn some things.

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Posted 10/23/2009 11:12:48 AM


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Oh well. At least this time the person interviewed wasn't portrayed as an obese pepsi Mountain Dew guzzling, armpit scratching flatulating local tavern hot shot whose MIL keeps a stinky cat box.

FTFY.

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Posted 10/23/2009 11:51:33 AM


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If he's making $35 an hour, then he's working an average of two hours a day I'm guessing.

Ya gotta love piece rate.

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Posted 10/23/2009 12:15:17 PM
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Hand to mouth with an exceptionaly high paying job.

Making $73,000 per year prior to the downturn, I wonder if he/they stored any nuts for winter?  Economic winters always come, sooner or later.

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Posted 10/23/2009 1:39:16 PM


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Hand to mouth with an exceptionaly high paying job.

Making $73,000 per year prior to the downturn, I wonder if he/they stored any nuts for winter?  Economic winters always come, sooner or later.

$73,000 a year prior to downturn?  Didn't happen.  This story is undoubtedly using piece rate income figures, and there is no way that these wages were paid for a 40 hour week, 50 weeks in the year.

Figure somewhere between four to six hours per day, maybe-maybe 5 days a week, for maybe 48 weeks and you might be close to his prior year income.  Maybe.

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Posted 10/23/2009 4:10:07 PM
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Did they continue to accumulate $25,000 of credit card debt while out of work? Or were they spending just a little bit more than they made when they were working? Nothing in this story of health issues. Not to pile on this family, but I just don't understand how people manage to bury themselves with credit card debt. I guess we all didn't have parents that taught us that money doesn't grow on trees.
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Posted 10/23/2009 6:11:23 PM


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mbourd1 (10/23/2009)
Hand to mouth with an exceptionaly high paying job.

Making $73,000 per year prior to the downturn, I wonder if he/they stored any nuts for winter?  Economic winters always come, sooner or later.

£73,000? I'm almost certain that isn't what he made prior. £35/hour is probably what he averaged when we look at his gross pay vs. the hours he worked (which probably isn't over 6 per day). In my 16 years in the RV industry,the only people I knew who raked in over 70K a year were high ranking corporate,computer nerds(IT dept), or "company pets" that have been there since the wheel was invented. If he does make 70K for assembly, where do I apply? As for storing nuts for economic winters,some people just don't get that idea and never will. I'm happy for the guy that he is back to work and getting his life back on track for him and his family.

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Posted 10/24/2009 8:45:37 AM


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sarowe (10/23/2009)
If he's making $35 an hour, then he's working an average of two hours a day I'm guessing.

Ya gotta love piece rate.

Crap that's right.

You guys say stuff better in one sentence than I do in 9 paragraphs.

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