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4/22/2009 12:00:00 AM
Let's discuss 'When progress isn't adequate, what's next?'.
Whether or not it's for the best, local schools that don't regularly make Adequate Yearly Progress have some changes to make. Last week the Indiana Department of Education announced four of Elkhart County's seven local school districts didn't make AYP status.
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| Does this "grade" include the Mexican population? I still see lots of Mexican children going to school that do not have know the english language. Are we as a whole being punished because of this?
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ldcripe (4/22/2009)
Does this "grade" include the Mexican population? I still see lots of Mexican children going to school that do not have know the english language. Are we as a whole being punished because of this?Oh boy id, you could depend on you to make an absolutely stupid comment. I have taught for 39 years and I have seen many English speaking kids that couldn't complete a decent sentence that was grammatically correct. You need to back off all those who exactly match your idea of a perfect person. By the way, most of those kids are American of Mexican or Central American descent.
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To address a question from above, a substantial portion of Chandler Elementary's population is ESL (81 of 269 students according to DOE website). This is true of all of GCS (approaching 30%). Also, according to a letter written by GHS principal Jim Kirkton, to our area Congressman, a significant percentage of these are "undocumented". The purpose of his letter was to find ways to procure college aide for "undocumented" kids. This letter was shared with the staff of GHS a few years back.
Take from that what you will...
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| I do not believe anyone but the teachers give a hoot about these kids or our schools. Every time we are told it's going to get better we get worse. Kind of like the lottery was going to go to the schools, but their fields trips and music and art is taken away. The teachers are paid crap and treated like crap. Overloaded and expected to do to much with too many. Fight over all this other crap if you want to it's all the same just more and more words and and less and less progress. Kudos to the teacher who put the *** in his place. Take it up with their parents if you do not want them there. Leave defenseless children alone. How many hours do YOU donate at the schools? You can always teach someone to read but you have to know how to first! Help out quit complaining.
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| I'm a bit concerned that one of the interventions is that parents can move their children to a school with better achievement if their home schools continue to fail. Does that just make whatever new school they go to have scores that will go down?
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| what happens when so many kids want to go to a paticular school that it becomes overcrowded...example: if all elementary Elkhart Community Schools are failing but one and all of the parents want to transfer their kids to that school.....what then?
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Karma (4/22/2009)
what happens when so many kids want to go to a paticular school that it becomes overcrowded...example: if all elementary Elkhart Community Schools are failing but one and all of the parents want to transfer their kids to that school.....what then?They can only transfer to a school that is NOT overcrowed. Each school building has a "full" number and numbers cannot exceed that with portable classrooms brought in. Notice that only a few of many elementary schools is Elkhart are included the substandard AYP. Hawthorne, Roosevelt, and other such schools ARE NOT behind because of the staff--it is because of the make-up of the school. Indiana legislators should NOT make laws about the things they know nothing about. If they do they begin to sound like idcripe!!!!!! 
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Thanks Alatri. I didn't know if they had made a provision for that. BTW, I was just using Elkhart Community as an example. 
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| They send you a letter and give you a list of schools to choose from that have space. You pick a 1st 2nd & 3rd choice and then they let you know which one your kid will end up at. I transferred my kids once. It was a good school but it wasn't a good decision on my part. They kind of liked their old school better. They're in a school now that has failed lately but they're doing well so I keep them there. I'm surprised that people in good areas didn't catch on and begin moving to areas with failing schools in order to pay less for a house and even way less in property taxes. Their kids still could have kept attending the same good schools they did before through the transfer.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The society which over-rewards people who simply happen to be standing in the right place at the right time will waste its effort in a constant jostling match to be lucky, rather than good." --stirling newberry
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