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miller4 (9/15/2008)
"huh??? Don't know what you are referring to ------ but I will say "at will" does not meant "upon the bosses whim and desire" .... courts have said "at will" must still have a "cause" " Tim Really. I was fired from a company because one of my co-worker's complained to my boss that I was humming "Joy to the World" 4 days before Christmas. I was doing this in my cubicle so quietly that the boss, upon walking past my cubicle couldn't hear me. Better check those law books again. Besides using a taser on a stepson, for no apparent reason, and insubordination on behalf of the Public Safety Director sounds like two very good reasons for firing an individual. Tim, didn't you and I go around on this last week or was that someone else. If someone else, then forget my quoting your statement. m4 -- I don't believe it was you and I, and I read the posts following this post only to find that "somewhere" "someone" thought there was "cause" to let you go from the job. Moreove as I read you explainations following, your experience exemplify why I enourage everyone to know "judicial combat"... You might not be short that commission owed you and you may well have had a retailtory discharge claim against the company .... very lucrative those retalitory discharges. The "at will employment doctrine" is meant to avoid mere employment from constituting a legally enforcible "employment contract" ..... Do you know anyone has ever who collected unemployment for, as it is termed by Indiana unemployment law, "discharged without cause and through no fault of your own doing" ... I know a plenty .... Now in defense of any misconceptions ...... certainly "business" and most obnoxious bosses will tell you "at will means .....", but ask the company lawyer and you may find that I am right because unlike yourself m4 ...... I have read alot of law over the years.
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| and one last thing m4 ..... I take it you never got your commission monies ----- and I'll assume you never really took a stand to get them either...... phfffft assuming I am correct ..... I feel for your helpless self. Learn to fight guy -----
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| Tim , Thanks for the help but as this was three years ago, and outside of my commission, I was earning just slightly above minumum wage ($7.00/hr) and you can't call a lawyer and talk to him on the phone without getting a bill (I know that because that has happened to me too). You're right, I never did get the money, and I didn't think about the unemployment claim for that reason, but I did file my calim that way, and since they didn't contest it, that is an admission of guilt isn't it?
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miller4 (9/15/2008)
Tim , Thanks for the help but as this was three years ago, and outside of my commission, I was earning just slightly above minumum wage ($7.00/hr) and you can't call a lawyer and talk to him on the phone without getting a bill (I know that because that has happened to me too). You're right, I never did get the money, and I didn't think about the unemployment claim for that reason, but I did file my calim that way, and since they didn't contest it, that is an admission of guilt isn't it? Failure to answer or contest is a procedural default .... but it is not an admission "on the merits" ..... Make sense????
*************************************The truth is so precious she must always be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies Winston Churchill
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Supreme Being
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| I understand Tim. Thanks again. It really is okay, I'm past it now. The only reason I brought it up was because I thought it was germain to the way the discussion had turned.
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miller4 (9/15/2008)
I understand Tim. Thanks again. It really is okay, I'm past it now. The only reason I brought it up was because I thought it was germain to the way the discussion had turned.no problem m4 ..... but if yo learn how to litigate [judicial combat] this crap won't happen to ya, and you'll never see a bill from any lawyer ---- hence the knowledge is invaluable, especially so for those earning so little ---- crap 7 bucks an hour, one has to work 30 to 60 hours just to buy one hour from an attorney --- get the knowledge and that is money one need not earn ..... knowledge is power, and money in the bank
*************************************The truth is so precious she must always be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies Winston Churchill
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| It is all starting to add up... 
What have we done George to deserve this? 
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| oooooh barry --- I am short on time for this today. ciao,
*************************************The truth is so precious she must always be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies Winston Churchill
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| Now that the head of the republican party Sen. John McCain and his second fidel Sarah Palin are supporting corporate socialism with the baillout of Wall Street; think maybe they might throw some crumbs our way? This sudden conversion has to be the biggest political lie so for in the 21st century.... I can't wait to watch all of the social conservatives spin this one after spending months painting Sen. Obama as the father of socialism... Should be good.... The truth is, local republicans will take a hard right turn to divert attention... They will start posting on abortion, right to life, any thing they can use to divert attention off of the real Sen. John McCain, and the second fidel he brought down into the lower 48. Barry Fox BarryGFoxF@aol.com
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| Barry, everyone is going to spin this to their advantage and try to make good, everyone, republicans and democrats, especially barney frank and chris dood, who were clearly a sleep at the switch, will lie and try to place blame. They are all at fault. The political backbiting and spinning that has hit the circuit since the introduction of sarah palin is pathetic and disgusting and I suggest the democrats find a new song if they are to have any chance of winning this election.
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