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Posted 9/15/2008 12:07:01 PM
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   Ok, Gram, I read all of your supposes and inuendo and facts now we could read some other facts.  These do have a pretty good foundation in truth because the US Senate Ethics Committee gave him a mild rebuke for intervening with regulators during the course of their investigation.  So, while you suppose that something had to be wrong with Obama's purchase of a home at the same time a friend's wife bought the adjoining property, McCain has a case that he did receive free trips (until paid for many years later), received the most contirbutions of the five senators involved and was 'rebuked' by the Ethics Committee.  

     Remember those who wish to throw stones should be very careful if they also live in glass houses.

"But McCain made a critical error.

In spinning his side of the Keating story, McCain adopted the blanket defense that Keating was a constituent and that he had every right to ask his senators for help. In attending the meetings, McCain said, he simply wanted to make sure that Keating was treated like any other constituent.

Keating was far more than a constituent to McCain, however.

On Oct. 8, 1989, The Republic revealed that McCain's wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators.

The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental jet. Three of trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay.

McCain also did not pay Keating for the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Total cost: $13,433.

When the story broke, McCain did nothing to help himself. When reporters first called him, he was furious. Caught out in the open, the former fighter pilot let go with a barrage of cover fire. Sen. Hothead came out in all his glory.

''You're a liar,''' McCain snapped Sept. 29 when a Republic reporter asked him about business ties between his wife and Keating.

''That's the spouse's involvement, you idiot,'' McCain said later in the same conversation. ''You do understand English, don't you?''

He also belittled the reporters when they asked about his wife's ties to Keating.

''It's up to you to find that out, kids.''

And then he played the POW card.

''Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics,'' McCain said.

The paper ran the story a few days later. At a news conference, McCain was a changed man. He stood calmly for 90 minutes and answered every question.

On the shopping center, his defense was simple. The deal did not involve him. The shares in the shopping center had been purchased by a partnership set up between McCain's wife and her father.

But McCain also had to explain his trips with Keating and why he didn't pay Keating back right away.

On that score, McCain admitted he had fouled up. He said he should have reimbursed Keating immediately, not waited several years. His staff said it was an oversight, but it looked bad, McCain jetting around with Keating, then going to bat for him with the federal regulators.

Meanwhile, Lincoln continued to founder.

In April 1989, two years after the Keating Five meetings, the government seized Lincoln, which declared bankruptcy. In September 1990, Keating was booked into Los Angeles County Jail, charged with 42 counts of fraud. His bond was set at $5 million.

Among the Keating Five, McCain received the most direct contributions from Keating. But the investigation found that he was the least culpable, along with Glenn.

In the end, McCain received only a mild rebuke from the Ethics Committee for exercising ''poor judgment'' for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Still, he felt tarred by the affair.

''The appearance of it was wrong,'' McCain said recently. ''It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.''"

http://www.wmsa.net/People/john_mccain/ariz-republic_chap_V_1999.htm

By Bill Muller
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 03, 1999 12:12:00

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Posted 9/15/2008 12:16:51 PM
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Think about this...

One, Palin is in no shape ready to be released on her own (The media would eat her up), let alone be a heart beat away from the Presidency... Nevada was a photo op, not a coming out party for the VP candidate (she was hushed)... The McCain campaign has already announced she will rejoin Sen. McCain for a five state sweep... This folks is by design. She is starting to appear as the young naive secretary guarding the door to the boss’s office.

Newt G. is already on the air waves saying the McCain / Palin ticket may be peaking... The concerning issue is he may be correct, and all democrats should be concerned given the time left in the campaign. The race is in fact becoming more of a timing issue.

Biden is finding himself in a unique position of defending his experience or to be viewed as a bully picking on a beauty queen runner up... It may do the party well to remember she was in fact a runner up and not the winner, but who knows at this point.

Palin clearly has more draw power then the top of the republican ticket, the ability to stream two sentences together, and the frenziedly ability to invoke the base.

What this lady lacks for in experience and exposure to the real world, she is making up for in her cheerleading ability for the republican base and should not be overlooked... While the seconds have not over-whelmed the end result, this election could be different if people don’t pay attention now... Electing a President based on the Vice President may be more important then it has ever been in American history... Think about it, given our history....

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Posted 9/15/2008 1:20:54 PM
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Barry, you have got to drop the experience thing, she has more experience that Obama, speaks as well as Obama, and the people love her.

Experience is not the issue this time.  If the democrats keep harping this experience thing, they will lose the election.

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Posted 9/15/2008 1:41:42 PM
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Barry - you are the gift that just keeps giving. I see you are still stuck on the cheerleader theme. Her leadership experience far surpasses that of a community organizer in a corrupt city ran by Democrats.

Let's see how things are fairing where Barack organized communities... in the last 6 months 292 murders in Chicago (only 221 killed in Iraq and the all-mighty still supports gun restrictions). State pension fund is $44 billion in debt which is the worst in the country. Cook county (Chicago) sales tax is 10.25% which is the highest in the country. If He is everything that has been advertised then why doesn't He first try to fix Chicago?

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Posted 9/15/2008 2:25:23 PM
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"huh???  Don't know what you are referring to ------ but I will say "at will" does not meant "upon the bosses whim and desire" .... courts have said "at will" must still have a "cause" "  Tim

Really.  I was fired from a company because one of my co-worker's complained to my boss that I was humming "Joy to the World" 4 days before Christmas.  I was doing this in my cubicle so quietly that the boss, upon walking past my cubicle couldn't hear me.  Better check those law books again.

Besides using a taser on a stepson, for no apparent reason, and insubordination on behalf of the Public Safety Director sounds like two very good reasons for firing an individual.

Tim,

didn't you and I go around on this last week or was that someone else.  If someone else, then forget my quoting your statement.

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Posted 9/15/2008 2:45:10 PM


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"At will" doesn't require a cause.

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Posted 9/15/2008 2:46:09 PM
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Fired for humming "Joy to the World", hmmmmmmm. I bet there is more to this story but as usual m4 will only tell us what he wants us to hear. Please, put your 11 year old on.
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Posted 9/15/2008 2:47:00 PM
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I see the new campaign button that is out says "Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilot was a Governor."  I think the Dems better be real careful otherwise those gun totin' religious people will rise up and throw the media appointed messiah out on his backside.
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Posted 9/15/2008 2:49:21 PM


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Welp, I've had my fill of mouthbreathing for the day....

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Posted 9/15/2008 3:00:09 PM
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PPETE,

You caught me.  I plead guilty.  Here is the rest of the story.  I had a customer who didn't get all of the pieces that they ordered with their bedroom furniture for several weeks.  When asking my boss about why this happened (4 different times) I got four different answers, but the best one was "There isn't anything we can do about it." 

Same boss I alluded to some time ago who refused to pay me the $1500 commission that I had earned the previous month.  I asked 3 times why I wasn't getting that commission and I got 3 different answers.

By the way did I mention that these are the same guys who had been giving various sales persons sales and crediting them to other sales people as well as paying those other sales people the commissions.  See I was just too smart for them, and so is my 11 year old.

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